I hardly ever respond to Carbine posts but this one has topped the charts so badly that I can't let it go.
In an effort to keep our standards high, and make sure we’re doing things the right way, we’re temporarily postponing PvP Leaderboards.
I'm sorry, keep your standards high? This game's PvP has been riddled with exploits, win trading, elo-boosting, tanking down to 100 rating and queuing with an 1800 to face only low rated teams, even straight up HACKS in arena (chargeshot spam hack), ridiculous imbalance in the old PvP 1200 and 1800 gear, and that's just the stuff I can immediately call to mind in this heated moment. When have standards ever been high that you'd like to maintain them? It is so hard to man up and admit you guys have fallen short of delivering a quality environment for the PvP crowd? Almost nothing, SINCE LAUNCH, has been working the way it should.
You say you'd like to make sure you're doing things the right way....how is postponing PvP leaderboards doing that exactly? Are you worried about the masses of win-traders (who are inactive in the leaderboards, just sitting at the top with their 2200+ ratings) are making the game look bad? Is that it? If so, why in the world did you release leaderboards in the first place? Nothing has changed since you released them..in fact, the first leaderboard release had a guy with something like 4200 rating. Obviously the staff member who posted that leaderboards saw that and what did he think of it? Was it normal? Everyone at 2500 rating, one guy randomly 95% win rate at 4200 rating...yeah, let's post the leaderboards anyway with him on there. I mean it's as if you guys really didn't care how the leaderboards portrayed the game at all, but now you suddenly do? I liked the leaderboards. I used them as a means to find people to play with. Once I transferred over to PvE after being on Pergo since launch, it took me 2 weeks of searching until I found TWO people above 1500 (through looking at names on leaderboards for one guy, and randomly inspecting players in Thayd for the other guy). I'm not too concerned about the lack of PvPers on the PvE server, that's not my point - my point was, the leaderboards were pretty useful to someone like me and I actually liked watching myself climb and also seeing new names popup in the 2k+ bracket.
But to maintain high standards, you're removing them. If you're going to reply to this part of my post, respond to this question - What exactly is removing leaderboards going to do to improve the PvP environment of this game?
We’ve listened to your feedback;.
Oh, is that so? Hmm...could you perhaps point me to some posts where people are asking for leaderboards to be removed, perhaps a post with valid justification? Uh, nevermind, none exist, let's not even bother trying to look for any. You guys have NOT listened to our feedback - nobody has given feedback of "remove leaderboards, it's the biggest problem in PvP!!". Come the *cupcake*on man.
and when Leaderboards return, it is our goal that they will have their own dedicated webpage. We’re also working on a system that will provide an automatic feed of current data that will have detailed stats, and will be totally interactive.
Except you already have this on your side. You think we're all clueless? Some developers have already posted on these forums that you have this sort of system already existing that you yourself can monitor. Let's assume I'm wrong (for your sake)...how hard could it be to code up something that queries a database and displays the results in a table? Honestly, how hard do you think it is? I'm not going to assume you're a developer, but I am, so let me tell you that I could make a nice looking page with formatted data that has everything anyone would want to see in a leaderboard, and I could do it in under an hour. Not because I'm some professional, but because it's easy as shit. A few simple queries to dump all the data from the database, then parse it, then display it...just as you guys have been exporting them to CSV files, you can grab that data with a simple PHP script and display it just as easily. It's so easy to make this and automate it and have it being updated interactively, it makes no sense why it's been 5 months and it still doesn't exist and you guys have been manually exporting data to CSV files and putting them up for downloads...jesus.
By switching our bandwidth from the current operation to this new system, PvP Leaderboards will become what the community has always wanted them to be.
What in the world is this supposed to mean? Switching your bandwidth - do you mean your man-power? How in the world was it taking up a significant amount of resources to export data into a CSV file and upload them?
Why is this leaderboards page being worked on now when it's been something that could have been released WITH THE GAME?
Better yet, why are resources being devoted to that when so many more major problems exist in the PvP environment? If this is such an arduous task, shouldn't efforts be devoted places other than coding up a webpage?
I mean honestly, if it's that difficult and time consuming, I'd rather have the person who is given the 1 month to code a single page stop what he's doing and spend that month brainstorming ways to prevent win trading and tanking and what have you.
In the end, this post has just shown more and more how disconnected Carbine is from the PvP aspect of this game. Every single change you guys have done has been contrary to what the real PvPers know to be the better way to go about things. Just writing that last sentence reminded me of the great idea you guys had of randomizing rune slots...I mean in what world was that ever a good idea? Things were fine the way they were, why introduce a secondary grind? Nobody enjoys farming prestige. Do you know what the outcome was of you guys doing what you did? It definitely wasn't more battleground queue pops. No. It was people figuring out how to exploit Halls of Bloodsworn to get 5k prestige per game then getting their min-maxed rune slot gear and playing your system. That was the only outcome of your random rune slot BS. NOBODY asked for that random rune crap on PvP gear. NOBODY. Literally zero people. You cannot find a single person that said "Guys, I love this game, I wish you would remove the already great slots on the PvP gear and make them random so I have to grind for them and waste hours trying to get good rolls." For some reason this idea of "NOBODY SAID THAT" cannot get through to you guys, and you keep repeating that you're "listening", so I'm just going to repeat it a few more times maybe it will stick. NOBODY ASKED FOR RANDOM RUNE SLOTS.
So again I ask - HOW are you listening?